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	<title>Comments on: Feature:  Where&#8217;s the &#8220;Citizen Kane of video games&#8221;?</title>
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		<title>By: Cody</title>
		<link>http://www.insanebear.com/1330/feature-wheres-the-citizen-kane-of-video-games/comment-page-1/#comment-677</link>
		<dc:creator>Cody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often wonder precisely how dating in the games/movies analogy should work.  I mean, if you&#039;re going from the beginning of film, then Citizen Kane came out around 50 years after the medium was born.  If you go from the beginning of games, it&#039;s been around 40 years since the beginning.  If you&#039;re basing it off of the start of the sound era, then Citizen Kane came about 15 years later.  That&#039;s just about the same time it&#039;s been since we switched to 3D.  Either way, if the movie/game analogy holds true, our &quot;Citizen Kane&quot; should be coming soon.

I do agree that our &quot;Citizen Kane&quot; won&#039;t be recognized as such for years after its release.  And in regards to the serious art form image of games, I&#039;d agree that the masses still view them as toys.  I wonder what the general perception of film was at this point in its life span?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often wonder precisely how dating in the games/movies analogy should work.  I mean, if you&#8217;re going from the beginning of film, then Citizen Kane came out around 50 years after the medium was born.  If you go from the beginning of games, it&#8217;s been around 40 years since the beginning.  If you&#8217;re basing it off of the start of the sound era, then Citizen Kane came about 15 years later.  That&#8217;s just about the same time it&#8217;s been since we switched to 3D.  Either way, if the movie/game analogy holds true, our &#8220;Citizen Kane&#8221; should be coming soon.</p>
<p>I do agree that our &#8220;Citizen Kane&#8221; won&#8217;t be recognized as such for years after its release.  And in regards to the serious art form image of games, I&#8217;d agree that the masses still view them as toys.  I wonder what the general perception of film was at this point in its life span?</p>
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		<title>By: Bleeder1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bleeder1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok - it is only with historical perspective that something like Citizen Kane gains it&#039;s reputation. Video games as an industry is simply too young. 

Citizen Kane came out at about the time movies started being a &#039;serious&#039; art form. Video games are not at this point yet, despite our Bioshocks &amp; MGS etc. As a whole the industry is still viewed as toys by practically everyone who plays them, let alone people who don&#039;t. When that changes, a particularly serious story driven game that is released at about the right time will then become the Citizen Kane of video games. But it won&#039;t get called that until 20 years later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok &#8211; it is only with historical perspective that something like Citizen Kane gains it&#8217;s reputation. Video games as an industry is simply too young. </p>
<p>Citizen Kane came out at about the time movies started being a &#8216;serious&#8217; art form. Video games are not at this point yet, despite our Bioshocks &amp; MGS etc. As a whole the industry is still viewed as toys by practically everyone who plays them, let alone people who don&#8217;t. When that changes, a particularly serious story driven game that is released at about the right time will then become the Citizen Kane of video games. But it won&#8217;t get called that until 20 years later.</p>
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		<title>By: BrainedMyDamage</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrainedMyDamage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whew...I might have to break my hatred for ps3 just for that game...if it&#039;s any good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew&#8230;I might have to break my hatred for ps3 just for that game&#8230;if it&#8217;s any good.</p>
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		<title>By: Cody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve often dreamed of just such a game, and if you&#039;ve been following MAG for the ps3 at all, that&#039;s just what it aims to do.  If they can pull it off in all the right ways, it absolutely will be a breakthrough for gaming.  I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d consider it a Citizen Kane, given it&#039;s general lack of story and heavy focus on multiplayer, but half the point of this article is that we don&#039;t need a Citizen Kane.  Games are different than movies.  I&#039;ll be sure to follow MAG for you and update you on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve often dreamed of just such a game, and if you&#8217;ve been following MAG for the ps3 at all, that&#8217;s just what it aims to do.  If they can pull it off in all the right ways, it absolutely will be a breakthrough for gaming.  I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d consider it a Citizen Kane, given it&#8217;s general lack of story and heavy focus on multiplayer, but half the point of this article is that we don&#8217;t need a Citizen Kane.  Games are different than movies.  I&#8217;ll be sure to follow MAG for you and update you on it.</p>
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		<title>By: BrainedMyDamage</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrainedMyDamage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  I think a great breakthrough in gaming would be: Tying different genres of games into one, in which it actually works and is a great game.  An example would be like some kind of war game, where there are some guys who are just normal COD-esque shooters.  Then maybe some captains/leaders that don&#039;t really do much shooting, but are there with the soldiers, kind of telling them what to do.  Then you have like generals/commanders that play an RTS-style game...where each one works with another.  It would be exceedingly difficult to put together, but man it would be worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  I think a great breakthrough in gaming would be: Tying different genres of games into one, in which it actually works and is a great game.  An example would be like some kind of war game, where there are some guys who are just normal COD-esque shooters.  Then maybe some captains/leaders that don&#8217;t really do much shooting, but are there with the soldiers, kind of telling them what to do.  Then you have like generals/commanders that play an RTS-style game&#8230;where each one works with another.  It would be exceedingly difficult to put together, but man it would be worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a quick side note, I probably feel that MGS4 is the closest thing we have to a Citizen Kane, but that&#039;s only if you count cut-scene intensive games as an advancement for our medium.  Ideally, I&#039;d like a first person, completely in game title that uses interactivity as a strength to push the medium forward.  Half-Life 3 maybe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a quick side note, I probably feel that MGS4 is the closest thing we have to a Citizen Kane, but that&#8217;s only if you count cut-scene intensive games as an advancement for our medium.  Ideally, I&#8217;d like a first person, completely in game title that uses interactivity as a strength to push the medium forward.  Half-Life 3 maybe?</p>
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